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	<title>Comments on: Farmer Food Safety Training Bill Gets Consumer Endorsement</title>
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		<title>By: jdaniel</title>
		<link>http://sustainableagriculture.net/blog/food-safety-training-bill-consumer-endorsemen/#comment-10540</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your input. We&#039;ve just posted a new entry with an update on NSAC&#039;s strategy on food safety, which includes Senator Stabenow&#039;s training bill, but also addresses a number of your concerns: http://sustainableagriculture.net/blog/food-safety-update/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your input. We&#8217;ve just posted a new entry with an update on NSAC&#8217;s strategy on food safety, which includes Senator Stabenow&#8217;s training bill, but also addresses a number of your concerns: <a href="http://sustainableagriculture.net/blog/food-safety-update/" rel="nofollow">http://sustainableagriculture.net/blog/food-safety-update/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harry Hamil</title>
		<link>http://sustainableagriculture.net/blog/food-safety-training-bill-consumer-endorsemen/#comment-10413</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Hamil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find NSAC&#039;s 11-16-09 letter and talking points astonishingly self-centered, short-sighted AND in the best interest of industrial ag.

As occurred with HR 2748, if you are completely successful, sustainable ag will still be forced into a niche from which it will be lucky to escape in 20 years.  Why?  Because we haven&#039;t protected our free-standing food distributors and processors.  Except processors who qualify as &quot;retail food establishments,&quot; they will all--no matter how small--be forced to have food safety plan(s), food defense plan(s) and full traceability.  How can these small enterprises possibly afford the financial and personnel costs?  Haven&#039;t you read what Pascal Destandau wrote about the impact on his creamery, Pug&#039;s Leap Farm?

It doesn&#039;t do any good to grow the healthiest food in America if we can&#039;t get it to market and HARPC plans will choke us at the distribution and processing stages in our local food systems.

Your 2 track approach to facility registration completely forgets that the purpose of facilities registration is for food defense/bioterrorism.  In that case, we want an extremely broad definition of facility.  They have grafted food safety which is about stopping unintentional acts on top of a food defense/bioterrorism foundation which is about stopping intentional acts.  

The FDA&#039;s Final Egg Rule applies ONLY to growers with 3000 or more laying hens.  The FDA has clearly recognized size as mattering and that the existing federalized system is working.  And the expense of compliance in that case is a tiny fraction of what it will be Hazard Analysis &amp; Risk-based Preventive Control (HARPC please pronounce it &quot;harps&quot;) plans.  The easiest way is to advocate a threshold for application of the requirements just as in the Final Egg Rule.  Because it covers so many different types of facilities, the best way I&#039;ve come up with for S 510 is gross profit.  My guess is $500,000 is the lowest that would allow a business to reasonably amortize the cost.

In addition, the 2002 Bioterrorism law clearly states, farms are not “facilities.”  The FDA was incompetent and we were so asleep that we didn&#039;t call it on the fact that its definition in the CFR states &quot;Farms means a facility...&quot; while the 21USC350d(a) states, &quot;Such term [facility] does not include farms...&quot; And the law always trumps the regulation.  Though we missed it then, we can still call the FDA on it now which, of course, also illustrates the FDA&#039;s lack of competence in another area.

Finally, Section 105 Standards for Produce Safety is being allowed to pass essentially whole.  Small ag will get wiped out in the “rulemaking to establish science-based minimum standards for the safe production and harvesting of those types of fruits and vegetables that are raw agricultural commodities.” This new rulemaking will require many, many times the effort it has taken to fight the NLGMA.  And I was one of those who testified so I know too damn much about the cost of responding to that rulemaking demand.  My estimate is Section 105 will probably require, at least, a dozen times as much effort as has been expended on the NOP.  And then we will still have industrial ag rules not sustainable ag one.

Section 105 needs to be fought to the death because, if it passes, it is a death sentence for many of us, small growers.  Plus, its ripple effect will crater other businesses built to supply us and work with our output.  I&#039;m both sides of that transaction so I’m doubly hit.
And think of those farmers who have joined with other farmers to vertically integrate or who listened to the all the department of ag people and expanded into value-added processing.  They will have to know how to comply with both HARPC plans and the produce safety standards.

I intend to be in your face about this because the NSAC is continuing to fail us and I intend to tell everyone who will listen to me that you are.  

I’ll happily defend everything I’ve written to anybody who calls 828/669-4003, 8 AM – 8 PM Monday – Saturday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find NSAC&#8217;s 11-16-09 letter and talking points astonishingly self-centered, short-sighted AND in the best interest of industrial ag.</p>
<p>As occurred with HR 2748, if you are completely successful, sustainable ag will still be forced into a niche from which it will be lucky to escape in 20 years.  Why?  Because we haven&#8217;t protected our free-standing food distributors and processors.  Except processors who qualify as &#8220;retail food establishments,&#8221; they will all&#8211;no matter how small&#8211;be forced to have food safety plan(s), food defense plan(s) and full traceability.  How can these small enterprises possibly afford the financial and personnel costs?  Haven&#8217;t you read what Pascal Destandau wrote about the impact on his creamery, Pug&#8217;s Leap Farm?</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t do any good to grow the healthiest food in America if we can&#8217;t get it to market and HARPC plans will choke us at the distribution and processing stages in our local food systems.</p>
<p>Your 2 track approach to facility registration completely forgets that the purpose of facilities registration is for food defense/bioterrorism.  In that case, we want an extremely broad definition of facility.  They have grafted food safety which is about stopping unintentional acts on top of a food defense/bioterrorism foundation which is about stopping intentional acts.  </p>
<p>The FDA&#8217;s Final Egg Rule applies ONLY to growers with 3000 or more laying hens.  The FDA has clearly recognized size as mattering and that the existing federalized system is working.  And the expense of compliance in that case is a tiny fraction of what it will be Hazard Analysis &amp; Risk-based Preventive Control (HARPC please pronounce it &#8220;harps&#8221;) plans.  The easiest way is to advocate a threshold for application of the requirements just as in the Final Egg Rule.  Because it covers so many different types of facilities, the best way I&#8217;ve come up with for S 510 is gross profit.  My guess is $500,000 is the lowest that would allow a business to reasonably amortize the cost.</p>
<p>In addition, the 2002 Bioterrorism law clearly states, farms are not “facilities.”  The FDA was incompetent and we were so asleep that we didn&#8217;t call it on the fact that its definition in the CFR states &#8220;Farms means a facility&#8230;&#8221; while the 21USC350d(a) states, &#8220;Such term [facility] does not include farms&#8230;&#8221; And the law always trumps the regulation.  Though we missed it then, we can still call the FDA on it now which, of course, also illustrates the FDA&#8217;s lack of competence in another area.</p>
<p>Finally, Section 105 Standards for Produce Safety is being allowed to pass essentially whole.  Small ag will get wiped out in the “rulemaking to establish science-based minimum standards for the safe production and harvesting of those types of fruits and vegetables that are raw agricultural commodities.” This new rulemaking will require many, many times the effort it has taken to fight the NLGMA.  And I was one of those who testified so I know too damn much about the cost of responding to that rulemaking demand.  My estimate is Section 105 will probably require, at least, a dozen times as much effort as has been expended on the NOP.  And then we will still have industrial ag rules not sustainable ag one.</p>
<p>Section 105 needs to be fought to the death because, if it passes, it is a death sentence for many of us, small growers.  Plus, its ripple effect will crater other businesses built to supply us and work with our output.  I&#8217;m both sides of that transaction so I’m doubly hit.<br />
And think of those farmers who have joined with other farmers to vertically integrate or who listened to the all the department of ag people and expanded into value-added processing.  They will have to know how to comply with both HARPC plans and the produce safety standards.</p>
<p>I intend to be in your face about this because the NSAC is continuing to fail us and I intend to tell everyone who will listen to me that you are.  </p>
<p>I’ll happily defend everything I’ve written to anybody who calls 828/669-4003, 8 AM – 8 PM Monday – Saturday.</p>
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